The woman who had tried to warn Bill intervenes and insists on redeeming him, at an undisclosed personal cost. MYMENU MYMENU Masquerade Mask For Couples WebThere are constant hints throughout the film of it being a story about one man's ego and insecurities. In Eyes Wide Shut, Abigail Good plays a `Mysterious Woman'. It is as if he Wanted, as if hedesired, compelled, it to be so again, its at two - simultaneousbut contradictory - levels (as ALWAYS in many of Kubrick's films -like in The Shining: are the spectral ghosts 'real' or is Jack etcimagining them? Yes, and we could speculate even further: there are no dream sequenceswhatsoever in the film, Alice's story about the navel officer being arecollection of her past desires, not a portrayed dream as such atall. Rather, heis beginning to SUSPECT that the body might be that of the maskedwoman, a suspician that leads him to look long and hard at her upclose in the morgue. > If we speculate too far then we could say it was ALL a Charade. WebI n the film "Eyes Wide Shut", who was the masked woman that redeemed Tom Cruise's character? I am normally the last guy in theworld to criticize somebody for using big words, but, besides that you'renot bothering, even, to use them correctly, the way that you are using themserves to obfuscate rather than clarify your meaning. that Bill first makes this connection, or at least, hasit confirmed by someone else (Ziegler). It's a kind of dissassociation from reality, and an obsessive flight of ideas, into endless, words and meta-words. The Redeemer's voice does sound alot like Mandy's voice, both with a hint of a New York accent. He only ultimately accepts Ziegler's account because it> gives him a convenient alibi (as well as because of Ziegler's powerful> position - Bill is Ziegler's man, obeying his orders, subscribing to> the demands and realities of Ziegler's world). He has written words for Den of Geek, Collider, The Irish Times and Screen Rant over the years, and can discuss anything from the MCU - where Hawkeye is clearly the best character - to the most obscure cult b-movie gem, and his hot takes often require heat resistant gloves to handle. When Bill asks what, she simply responds, "Fuck." Eyes Wide Shut developed after Stanley Kubrick read Arthur Schnitzler's Dream Story in 1968, when Kubrick was looking for a project to follow 2001: A Space Odyssey. Kubrick was interested in adapting the story, and with the help of journalist Jay Cocks, bought the filming rights to the novel. And of course how did the mask get on his pillow? >>What else could he call it? >>He also must have recognized the voice, considering that her voice is >>somewhat deep and throaty with a tinge of distinctive accent. But examine the frame showing the overhead shot in the morgue, with all the shots of Mandy in the bathroom. Amazing. > But it isn't clear at all, and nobody in the film refers to the events> at Somerton as a 'party.'<<<<<<<. Models at the party attended by the Royal Family. http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/japanese-zen/. 2. As opposed to arborescent: two contrasting concepts central to muchphilosophical debate over the past few decades (see, for instance, thework of philosophers Deleuze and Guattari). Desire is always the desire of theOther our dreams constituring the realisation of desire. Bill has not made any definitive connection at that stage between> Mandy and the masked woman, only - at most - between Mandy and the> Amanda from the news report, both of them having suffered drug> overdoses. EWS was potential. No comments. > Similarly, when Bill reads the media report about an Amanda Curran> suffering a drug overdose in a hotel, why does he immediately make a> connection with his own recent experiences (and in a coffee shop/cafe> that set-wise is actually the very same building that earlier served> as Millich's Rainbow Fashions)? The 'mystery' is how SHE knows that he is an interloper. WebThe protagonists mask (Bill Harford, interpreted by Tom Cruise) is a Venetian mask that covers the entire face. > Well I hope you see now that this is clear after reading the dialogue. S he was the same woman who overdosed at Victor Ziegler's party earlier in the movie. 1. :>I thought this film was much less interesting than the competing film. >> If we speculate too far then we could say it was ALL a Charade.>>, >>>>>>>>>>>That would not be valuable or insightful speculation, but a total> denial of most of what happens in the film (another variation of 'it's> all just a dream', everything being attributable to the delusions of> Bill's mind, a denial of the world of social power, similar to saying> that everything that happens to Jack Torrance in The Shining is all> 'in his mind'). >Apparently word of Bill's entry into the ceremony/orgy traveled fast. > slight, single frame, mini-wink and subsequent eye movement was intended? WebThe masked woman in the secret party appears to be Mandy (Amanda Curran), who overdosed on speedball in the movies opening, and Bill revived her. He didn't recognise her voice. When we see the naked corpse's face from the overhead shot, at first it's hard to tell if it's really Mandy's face, because of the expression and the angle, her combed back hair etc. Technology has caught up with his disguises andcovers. The first several times I saw the film I though what the op thought. But I agree the way it is done is brilliant and it leaves all of us unsure of everything, opening up infinite possibilites as to what it all means. for the morgue scene but it is still meant to be the same Mandy. I think the voice would have rung a bell and the Newspaper story rang a bell, with the name Amanda, and of course seeing the corpse of someone who may have sacrificed her life for him--so he was in shock. It is only when Ziegler respondspositively to Bill's question, "The woman at the party is the woman inthe morgue?" In a case like that a pwerson would go through the various possibilities in his mind, but he was kinda busy. The (unnamed) woman in the mask who warns Doctor Cruise is the same woman who ends up dead in the morgue. Clearly, of course,the Somerton ritual is a mirror of Ziegler's party (with each event inmany ways serving as the 'truth' of the other): whether its Mandy atthe party or at the ritual or at both, the outcome is still the same:a corpse in a morgue. -----Richard Schultz sch@mail.biu.ac.ilDepartment of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, IsraelOpinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University-----"It would have been like discussing sundials with a bat. He only ultimately accepts Ziegler's account because itgives him a convenient alibi (as well as because of Ziegler's powerfulposition - Bill is Ziegler's man, obeying his orders, subscribing tothe demands and realities of Ziegler's world). Which all suggests that Ziegler didn't actually knowabout Bill's presence at Somerton until he removed his mask <<<<<<<<<<<<. The rhizomatic uncertainties and> > uncanny inconsistencies multiply >> "Rhizomatic uncertainties"?>> I actually had to look that up. I never siad Bill recognized him.we get to recognize him when we study it. "My Sex Slave video with Chinese subtitles"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjMIROKzH7s, ZKD 788-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4N4vSijHTM, Im Treibhaus (Wesendonck Lieder) - Richard Wagner - Faynehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOhxWdGuQd4, When he claps his hands together. Weve got a beautiful feminine version of the lead mask that features a baroque pattern and crystal embellishments, as well as a feathered mask similar to the Given how upset she appeared following his confession, it's very unlikely she knew exactly what he was out doing, however. Web .
1925 . He had no reason to think Zeigler was at Somerton, > till Zeigler tells him. <<<<<<<<< Even Sk was not perfect in that way-----or was hethere is another > mystery. The lost of public phones booths will kill off Superman, Dr. Who, and Colin Farrell roles. <<<<<<<<<<. I enjoy the > mystery entirely and will return to it over and over and could watch the > film again and again.>, >>>>>>>>>>>>> And if this firgure was Ziegler, why would he subsequently> send a naked masked woman over to Bill for his benefit? As 1999 approached, what little was known about Eyes Wide Shut was almost indecently tantalising. :>released around the same time, The Ninth Gate. <<<<<<<<<<. >on the balcony looking down> at Bill, knows that it is him and nodded to him. And isn't this the mistake that many of the film'scritics made, reading Ziegler's story as 'ruining' the mystery,desublimating the film's narrative by means of an all-neat-and-tidydenouement? 10 Stanley Kubricks Sudden Death. WebEyes Wide Shut (1999) Abigail Good: Mysterious Woman, Masked Party Principal Showing all 3 items Jump to: Quotes (3) Quotes Mysterious Woman : Stop! '<<<<<<<<<<< I think it is clear he was > referring to the Somerton party. Simply because we don't really know the extent of the "charade," from the Illuminatii/Secret government etc, OR what SK really had in mind---to blow our mind. "anachoronistic Deleuze and Guattari? And you bring up anachoronistic Deleuze and Guattari? ". In keeping with the filmmaker's quest for perfection, the shoot for Eyes Wide Shut famously rolled on, with the movie holding the record for the longest consecutiveshoot, as filming began in late 1996 and wrapped in mid-1998. Even had Alice found it in the cadenza, would she have recognized it as meaningful and taken it? This is still a mystery. >>In a big crowd of masked people, Zeigler (his eyes give away who he is)>, > So why didn't Bill also recognise the identity of this masked figure> on the basis of his eyes?<<<<<<<<<<<<, > This is simple. while walking down one of the NY streets, the background glowsbeautifucally. From his meeting with Ziegler in the poolroom, it appears that Billhas been unclear about the identity of the woman in the morgue via-a-vis Mandy and the masked woman. Barcaluv. The genre of Stanley Kubricks last film, based on the well-known story of the Austrian A. Schnitzler, The Novel of Dreams (1925-1926), can be interpreted in different ways. '<<<<<<<<<<<> I think it is clear he was referring to the Somerton party. And how does Bill know that a cape and a mask was appropriate attire? He did not know who she was: she was wearing> a mask. > <<<<<<< after> visiting the morgue, as his disbelief at Ziegler's explanation> indicated. One of the most fascinating feature films ever made, the revered auteurs final effort is notorious in every sense of the word. http://groups.google.com/group/alt.movies.kubrick/browse_frm/thread/16629c3d6011a459/705fb749859063b2?lnk=gst&q=treadmill#705fb749859063b2. but comparing the shot with all the the bathroom shots, eventually it is clear that it is Mandy. So maybe they were all wearing walkie talkies under those masks, what do you want me to say..no, this IS left as a huge mystery. > the same time, being simple and concrete. I think the voice would have rung a bell and > the Newspaper story rang a bell, with the name Amanda, and of course > seeing the corpse of someone who may have sacrificed her life for him--so > he was in shock. Mandy was not the same woman. It is also perhaps worth pointing out that the Somerton events, thoughso described in countless reviews and commentaries on the film - arenot accurately called an orgy, as that would imply that female, inaddition to male, sexual desire would find free expression at such anevent. And if this firgure was Ziegler, why would he subsequentlysend a naked masked woman over to Bill for his benefit? (3) With the advent of cyberspace, and just simple disinterest many newspaper companies have gone under. > > Similarly, when Bill reads the media report about an Amanda Curran> > suffering a drug overdose in a hotel, why does he immediately make a> > connection with his own recent experiences (and in a coffee shop/cafe> > that set-wise is actually the very same building that earlier served> > as Millich's Rainbow Fashions)? Web1-48 of 339 results for "Eyes Wide Shut Mask" RESULTS Price and other details may vary based on product size and color. Much of what we have seen is Bill's non-verbal reactions to > all this, which is full of shock and bewilderment. It is odd that Bill would remember his patient he hadn't seen in at least a year, owned "Rainbow Fashions?" In fact, the only actual dream in the film is unseen, is onlylater described - namely, Alice's dream/nightmare about having sexwith numerous men (strikingly similar to the fate of the women atSomerton) in which Bill is openly humiliated, and told to Bill justafer he returns from Somerton. If he were> Ziegler, wouldn't he instead be going out of his way to privately> communicate with Bill, to get Bill out of Somerton as quickly as> possible in order to avoid any possible trouble (and as Ziegler> subsequently admits, Bill's gate-crashing 'made me look like a> complete fool')? because Bill didn't get to see him up close like the film audience. Being "all a Charade," doesn't mean it was all a dream. and> pleading with her to take off her mask? The masked woman was played by a different actor but is the samecharacter. Statanic mass?>, > <<<<<<<<< about Bill's presence at Somerton until he removed his mask > <<<<<<<<<<<<. Are you suggesting that the people running Somerton would let the> women there know that there was an interloper? [Some irrelevant pseudo-Buddhist gibberish snipped]. Tragically it was the director's final film with Kubrick dying less than a week after screening an incomplete cut for the studio and its stars. (2) With AT&T recently announcing that they will dump almost all of their public pay phones, where can he change? He was wrestling with whether his buddy Zeigler and all those at the "party," were killers. In contrast, why does the masked woman seeminglyalready know much more than they do? As though testing how well Bill's implanted suggestions had taken..????? <<<<<<<<. When Bill goes to the hospital, he asks to see patient Amanda Curren (sp), the name he saw in the newspaper. Poor Clark. Nah, the only dreams in the movie are the one that Alice tells to Billand then Bill "daydreams' (thinks about) her having sex with thatsailor. ANSWER. Now that's out of the way, a brief introduction. (meaning the Mysterious woman) "victor the woman lying dead at the morgue was the women at the party, well victor, maybe i'm missing something heyou call it a Charadetell me what kind of Charade ends up with someone dead.". Well, in the interview with "Mandy" - Julienne Davis. 20 years ago today, the final masterpiece from the late, great Stanley Kubrick arrived in theaters. WebIn Kubrick's Eyes Wide Shut, the protagonist Bill arrives at a secret party/orgy: Shortly after arriving, he is warned by a masked woman to leave ASAP. >> When we see the news article about dead Mandy, it says "Beauty Queen"> but how did Bill know that was the same woman who ODd or helped him at> the orgy, since he never knew the real name of either? >>>>>> But which 'party' is Bill referring to? Wasn't the woman in the mask a lot skinnier than the ODd woman?? People and Masks: The Meaning of Eyes Wide Shut. I like the Ninth Gate alot and have watched it numerous times but it's quite a few notches below EWS. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AzOnnrAlE8, http://www.celebsvideoarchive.com/videos/Julienne%20Davis/index.html, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvNO0BfBecc. Statanic mass? But then again when Superman puts on a pair of plain eyeglassesLois Lane, or anyone else fails to recognize him as Clark Kent! WebSynopsis. And didn't Ziegler subsequently admit that the Somerton peopleonly learned of Bill's identity as a result of becoming suspicious ofhis manner of arrival and the costume-rental receipt in his coatpocket? He also must have recognized the voice, considering that her voice is somewhat deep and throaty with a tinge of distinctive accent. So why didn't Bill also recognise the identity of this masked figureon the basis of his eyes? 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