Lost Boys of Hannibal on Apple Podcasts 44 episodes This Podcast sets out to solve one of Hannibal Missouri's biggest mystery, The Lost boys of Hannibal Missouri snd the events surrounding their disappearance in 1967. She also didnt know where Tim was. But, Within a few days, the boys still hadnt been found and people started to wonder if they really were in the cave. This is the name that will be displayed next to your photo for comments, blog posts, and more. Nonetheless, this tight-knit community . And unfortunately, its leaning right now toward more of a true crime opportunistic killer than it is a caving.. It would be quite interesting if you could go down and dig in that hole. For Billy and Joey Hoag, it was more than perfect because they had plans after school to go and do what they did best, exploring. Its not only horrific to think of how these boys ended, but also the idea that somebody would hunt these local kids that everybody loved. -Butthead, Hart: Hannibal boys' disappearance brought back to life in book, After 45 years, mystery surrounding missing boys remains, This website uses cookies for functionality, analytics and advertising purposes as described in our, Porchlight International for the Missing & Unidentified, Hoag,Bill and Joey Howell,Craig May 10 1967, http://www.hannibal.net/stories/042206/ 2003.shtml, http://www.hannibal.net/stories/042706/ 0101.shtml, http://www.whig.com/story/news/RH-Scoop-Column-011910, http://z13.invisionfree.com/PorchlightU c=936&st=0&, http://www.hannibal.net/features/x15264 written-it, http://www.columbiamissourian.com/stori sing-boys/, http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/05/23/lo later.html. When it was dark, the Hoags went to their neighbors and someone told them that they had seen the Hoag brothers and young Dole near the Murphy Cave. There's no evidence to support any other theories, however. Lets go over some theories and speculation. He and Billy were close friends. Because of the circumstances, authorities theorized the three boys were trapped inside the cave when it collapsed and weren't able to get out. Two years ago, Hannibal native John Wingate released his first book about the disappearance of three Hannibal boys who were last seen on May 10, 1967, near some cave openings on Hannibal's south side. Cambeletta told host Sarah Fenske that since first starting the podcast, he and his co-host have been able to connect with members of the Hoag family and collaborate with entities including the Ralls County Sheriffs Office and the Missouri Department of Transportation. We hollered, we yelled.. William Francis Hoag April 17, 2020July 18, 2020 FindtheMissing Left and Right: William circa, 1967 Vital Statistics at Time of Disappearance Missing Since: May 10, 1967 Missing From: Hannibal, Marion County, Missouri Classification: Endangered Missing Date Of Birth: circa, 1956 Age: 11 years old Height and Weight: 5'5 and 80 pounds By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. He was into astrology and he was more grounded. They wouldnt believe me until somebody stepped forward and sort of said, Hes right, because I saw them. Bill Dexheimer (who did not wish to comment), he said that he had seen I dont know if he saw Craig but he saw Billy and Joey. High 59F. There are a few contradictory accounts of exactly what happened between now and the time anyone realized Billy, Joey and Craig were missing. St. Caves, like many other things in nature, are vast and often largely uncharted. So what do you think of this case? HANNIBAL, Mo. The boys shared a. The boys have never been heard from again. They said they were going to explore Murphys Cave a local spot near a road construction site. The world isn't flat, cats didn't knock them off the edges. accounts, the history behind an article. Night, DeDe said. A memorial marker for the boys has been placed in the vicinity of the cave. Craig lived on Union Street in 1967. The opening was between the ending southbound lanes off the nearby viaduct (the start of Birch Street) and Walnut Street. He was spotted in many places where children were being searched. We had a little bit of a meeting and went outside for some odd reason and thats when we found out, Henderson said. In 1967, the cave was close to the construction site of Highway 79. The weeks and weeks of searching turned up absolutely nothing. PLEASE TURN OFF YOUR CAPS LOCK. A pair of black tights are a necessity, rather than just an accessory, to stay stylish and comfortable when temperatures drop. Also surviving are one sister-in-law, MaryAnn Hoag; a special friend, Melissa Breeding; seven nieces; 10 nephews; 14 great-nephews;13 great-nieces; and DeDes beloved pet dog, Naomi., DeDe was preceded in death by her parents; two infant sons, James and Jeffrey Mastin; six brothers, Mickey Hoag, Fred Hoag, Tim Hoag, Joey Hoag, Billy Hoag and Robin Hoag; two nephews, Michael J. Hoag and Timmy Hoag; and her special pet dog, Hannibal.. On March 10th, 1967, the three boys set off with flashlights and a shovel to go on an adventure, but sadly to never return home. The first theory is that they ran away, but this isnt very likely. But boys will be boys. During the highway construction, sections of the road were being blasted to destroy them and make room for the new road, creating holes. All rights reserved. They were planning to . Be Truthful. A plaque and stone monument sits atop the Lovers Leap park overlooking the Mississippi River to honor the memory of the three boys. Franki Cambeletta Talks About Hannibal's Unsolved Mystery From 1967. Hannibal asks if he has trouble with taste. The case of the Lost Boys of Hannibal has been the subject of at least three books. Every. The audio engineer is Aaron Doerr. Billy Hoag (10), Joey Hoag (13) and Craig Dowell (14). He and William were not supposed to leave their yard, but they left anyway while their parents were out. More than 200 cavers from across the country converged on Hannibal to explore the labyrinth of underground passageways, including Murphy's Cave and some newly opened cave entrances where road construction was taking place along what is now Mo. The boys made plans to go back to the cave after school the following day. The preliminary search was called off 10 days later, though another source said the cave would continue to be searched for the next month. Motorists are always making their way along Route 79 at its origin, along the calm banks of Hannibal, and for many its just a daily routine. Had they absconded and left Hannibal without telling anyone? They took shovels, lanterns and other necessary things. That day, the construction work resulted in a cave-in at Murphys Cave. The belief is they went into a cave to explore. People took off work and some of them still got paid. or anything. Most of these caves were well explored in the first half of the twentieth century. The Charley Project is NOT a registered non-profit organization and any donations will NOT be tax-deductible. 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But at some point, 15-year-old Tim Hoag and 16-year-old DeDe lost track of their younger brothers, who slipped out of the yard and headed for another adventure. They regularly picked up lanterns and went down into the dark cave tunnels. He had on a T-shirt and jeans. DeDe and Billy crossed paths in the house. City officials have been notified of the disappearance of the three children, who may have been lost in the cave. Hannigram is the slash ship between Will Graham and Hannibal Lecter from the Hannibal fandom. Or had something else happened to them? The next day was Wednesday, May 10. Wingate is scheduled to sign copies of his new book from 6 to 8 p.m. Aug. 2, at Quincy Books and Toys, 3800 Broadway, and will sign books and give a presentation from 2 to 4 p.m. Aug. 3, at the Mark Twain Museum in Hannibal. The Hoag brothers and Craig Dowell were never found. http://www.hannibal.net/article/20120528/NEWS/305289977, http://khqa.com/news/local/a-hannibal-mystery-48-years-in-the-making, http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/hoag_joel.html. They were allegedly chased away by construction workers. Joel and Craig were both eighth-graders at Hannibal Junior High at the time of their disappearances. "This is a story that found me.". [These boys] were the all-American child, and boy, in 1967 Hannibal, Missouri. Everyone knew everyone on the south side of Hannibal and when the Hoag brothers decided go caving Dowell probably just happened to be near by and joined them. I cant tell you for a fact why they did it. He just had that red hair and those blue eyes and those freckles. Ive been to psychiatrists, neurologists, counselors. Low 31F. To request a transcript for St. Louis on the Air, No racism, sexism or any sort of -ism The boys' disappearance triggered a massive search. ***links with asterisks are affiliate links; I earn a commission from each sale. Get an email notification whenever someone contributes to the discussion. Ive got to have closure we havent found a thing. Updated 2 times since October 12, 2004. Local panic quickly brought national attention to the tiny river town in northern Missouri. Keep it Clean. Lost Boys of Hannibal Shift Films True Crime 4.8 340 Ratings JAN 9, 2023 S4 Episode 4: That man Karras. But these searches, just like the ones in the caves, didnt lead to much. Your account has been registered, and you are now logged in. Privacy Policy. Wed, 20 May 2015 04:21:51 GMT Joey, Billy, and the Hoag kids had many hobbies while growing up in Hannibal. My kids cant understand it and I cant understand it, other than we all think and feel different, DeDe said. As a result, only one probable trace of the boys was found a baby sock lying near the entrance to the cave. He said the mayor at the time was aware the machines used in the search for the three boys could go as deep as 39 feet, but instead the mayor told searchers to not go more than 37 feet. Threats of harming another Another such clue is that someone apparently saw the boys out of town alive after the search began, but no children or traces of them were found at that location. Mom and Dad left to go over to Buehlers Market to get some meat. Billy, Id say was a little bit more mischievous than Joey. Times just go on and on and on, and you pray, you try to get an answer. Appears these boys has still not been found.. "Hey Beavis, we need a chick that doesn't suck. A new Route 79 was being constructed (thats the route everyone knows today) and the deep holes dug into the hillside along the roads that lead into Lovers Leap and Riverside Cemetery had revealed a maze of passage ways which led into the caves. Or were they met with a sinister fate?" According to their sister Deborah, who went by DeDe, Billy was very mischievous while Joey was more serious and interested in science, especially astronomy. She . Or had something else happened to them? Wingate said he started investigating the theory a year ago -- around the same time he was making stops in Hannibal and Quincy, Ill., to sign copies of his first book. Just before 6:30 pm, Helen Hoag called the police. "They were last seen up on the road watching the construction on May 10 at about 5:15.". This was the latest reported sighting of the boys; after 5:15, all traces of them were lost. Keep it Clean. All suspicious passageways, narrow cracks and still unexplored tunnels were carefully checked. Threats of harming another "I've always been skeptical of this stuff," he said. But at some point, 15-year-old Tim Hoag and 16-year-old DeDe lost track of their younger brothers, who slipped out of the yard and headed for another adventure. As part of his research, Wingate said he drove the psychics separately though parts of the Hannibal area on different dates in August and September of 2018. The parents found out when they saw the characteristic reddish dirt on their clothes. One of them was 14-year-old Craig Dowell, who some sources described as a friend of theirs, others as an acquaintance. The families of Joey and Billy Hoag, 13 and 11 years of age, and 14-year Craig Dowell became worried when the boys failed to come home for dinner that evening. Searching As it turned out another neighborhood boy was missing too. In 2010, author Charles Stewart published a book about them, titled A Sorrow of the Heart. PLEASE TURN OFF YOUR CAPS LOCK. My own opinion is youre going to find Billy and Joey. "I had no idea this was coming," he said. Have the latest local news delivered every day so you don't miss out on updates. If they had, what would have happened? When the parents of the Hoag brothers returned from the store and saw that their children had disappeared, they became very angry and intended to give them a good lesson. Wingate said his first encounter with one of the psychics came last spring while he was doing a book signing at the Mark Twain Museum in Hannibal for "Lost Boys." There was a serious rebuke. "I wanted to see what they picked up on. He and Joel were both eighth-graders at Hannibal Junior High at the time of their disappearances. Greg Henderson, the boys 11-year-old friend who barely missed the cave trip that day, thinks there might have been corruption. Then in July of last year, a third woman -- an "evidential clairvoyant" in Wyoming who helps police solve crimes -- was looking at photographs of the three Hannibal boys when "all of a sudden she was overwhelmed with these images" of John Wayne Gacy brutalizing and burying the boys, Wingate said. Tim took off one way, I took off another way, DeDe said. Do you think the boys were kidnapped, or did they die of injury on the construction site and their bodies weren't able to be recovered? When they werent home by 5:45, their brother Tim started looking for them. But a parental edict to stay in the yard the afternoon they disappeared wasnt enough to deter the young adventurers. I was 11-years-old and I heard this was happening, Henderson said. He eventually showed and couldnt account for his younger brothers, so Helen sent him and DeDe out in the neighborhood to find them. DeDe was born January 15, 1951, in Hannibal, Missouri to Michael T. and Helen V. McCullough Hoag. The mystery man, meanwhile, "was no longer seen at that location after the boys went missing," Wingate said. Where are you going, DeDe asked Billy. You think theyre going to close down that highway to build on a speculation? He informs Will of Freddie Lounds posting a pic of one of the girls online, which Will calls tasteless. At 3pm, they were spotted by a casual passer-by walking to the entrance of Murphys Cave. Tim (DeDes younger brother by one year) was getting off the bus. Will says . Yet they were reportedly sighted near Murphys Cave as late as 5:15, likely with dirty shoes and clothes that they would have then had to go home and clean up. The Hannibal mayor even requested the help of the Missouri National Guard. The case would be the subject of several books and even a true crime-style podcast. Hannibal, Missouri is a small town of about 17,000 people that sits along the famous Mississippi River. Had they even returned to the cave after those last few sightings of them around town? Billy. They were always home by 9 oclock, DeDe said. "But I decided just to lay it out and let people decide for themselves" if there's any merit to the story. A Hannibal mystery 48 years in the making. We won't share it with anyone else. At the Disney California Adventure Food and Wine Festival, you will find a palate-dazzling smorgasbord of cuisines and cocktails in which to indulge. Joel disappeared with his brother, William Hoag, and a friend, Edwin "Craig" Dowell. Their parents forbade them to go there, but in response the boys said they would play in the yard and actually went to the caves. - The hometown of one of America's most enduring and beloved authors is also the site of a decades-old mystery. Brother Bill Dexheimer will officiate. One particular area the boys loved was Murphys Cave. "In all three cases, we'd find ourselves standing at the same location on three different days," he said. He said Hannibal police contacted the FBI back then to inquire about any possible Gacy connections. The first was, Podcasters Franki Cambeletta and Chris Koetters. Winds NW at 10 to 15 mph.. Yet there is a mystery on a portion of this roadway that has yet to be solved, a mystery as cold as a brisk Midwest winter. Did they separate and go missing in multiple different ways, in two or even three tragic coincidences? PGRpdiBjbGFzcz0ic291bGEtY29udGVudF8yIiBpZD0ic291bGEtMTM0MDA3MDI2MyI+PHNjcmlwdCBhc3luYyBzcmM9Ii8vcGFnZWFkMi5nb29nbGVzeW5kaWNhdGlvbi5jb20vcGFnZWFkL2pzL2Fkc2J5Z29vZ2xlLmpzP2NsaWVudD1jYS1wdWItODI1MjA4NzMwODM3MzUzNiIgY3Jvc3NvcmlnaW49ImFub255bW91cyI+PC9zY3JpcHQ+PGlucyBjbGFzcz0iYWRzYnlnb29nbGUiIHN0eWxlPSJkaXNwbGF5OmJsb2NrOyIgZGF0YS1hZC1jbGllbnQ9ImNhLXB1Yi04MjUyMDg3MzA4MzczNTM2IiAKZGF0YS1hZC1zbG90PSIiIApkYXRhLWFkLWZvcm1hdD0iYXV0byI+PC9pbnM+CjxzY3JpcHQ+IAooYWRzYnlnb29nbGUgPSB3aW5kb3cuYWRzYnlnb29nbGUgfHwgW10pLnB1c2goe30pOyAKPC9zY3JpcHQ+CjwvZGl2Pg==. The next theory is that the boys were kidnapped and possibly killed. "The psychics maintain that the three boys were tortured, sodomized, suffocated, strangled and buried in one grave," Wingate said. The boys' disappearance triggered a massive search. Winds NNW at 5 to 10 mph. They feared crashes and other disasters. The brothers asked another friend of theirs, 11-year-old Greg Henderson, to go with them to the cave, but he got called in for dinner so he couldnt. Details of Disappearance Joel disappeared with his brother, William Hoag, and a friend, Edwin "Craig" Dowell. He noticed that the boys were dragging a makeshift ladder of boards to lower themselves through the opening inside the cave. or anything. During the highway construction, sections of the road were being blasted to destroy them and make room for the new road, creating holes. Joey [Hoag] was even a really big astronomer labeled himself as an amateur astronomer, if you look through his writings. Two years ago, Hannibal native John Wingate released his first book about the disappearance of three Hannibal boys who were last seen on May 10, 1967, near some cave openings on Hannibal's south side. There is one last point of speculation I want to go over and, again, I want to emphasize that this is pure speculation, not accusations. 13 and 14, respectively, when they were last seen in Hannibal, Missouri on the afternoon of May 10, 1967. DeDe retired after working many years in retail sales as a manager. Nearly 55 years ago, two young brothers and their friend gathered shovels and flashlights on a spring afternoon to explore a cave in their hometown of Hannibal, Missouri. "We went up to the rock quarry on riverside, and we would bring black snakes home, and you know, our playground was Lovers Leap," DeDe Hoag . Billy was a little stinker. It dropped down and we got in there, thats the way you got in. At the Hoag House there were a variety of emotions. The boys parents, who owned a popular tavern in town, left for a meat market around 4 pm, giving their older children orders to make sure Billy and Joey didnt leave the house. . Then, searchers began looking around the surrounding forests, abandoned houses and old mines. They just kept asking, Where do you think they are? They left anyway while their parents were out. Please avoid obscene, vulgar, lewd, . These holes were sealed up a few days after the boys were last seen, despite orders from the mayor to keep them open. With todays technology, Henderson believes a new search could be conducted, but the chances of that happening are non-existent. Missouris Route 79 is a beautiful roadway cutting through the states eastern hills and tiny subtle towns. Cookie Notice Two years ago, Hannibal native John Wingate released his first book about the disappearance of three Hannibal boys who were last seen on May 10, 1967, near some cave openings on Hannibal's south side. Partly cloudy skies. In the days that followed, cavers near and far joined an extensive search-and-rescue mission. Choose wisely! Billy Hoag, Joel Hoag, and Craig Dowell; Hannibals Lost Boys. (Courtesy: Hannibal Courier-Post). It was searched by police but, again, no trace of the boys was found. The late, great Roberto Clemente. Fifty-four years ago this month, three boys went missing in Hannibal, Missouri, and were never seen again. It is a possibility that [serial killer John Wayne Gacy] was traveling through and from Hannibal, Cambeletta said. According to various accounts over the years, they were last seen between 4:30 p.m. and 5:15 p.m. For more than a week, members of the Mark Twain Emergency Squad and the National Speleological Society searched Murphys Cave and others subterranean systems for any trace of the boys, due to fears they may have been trapped via a cave-in. And I said, Mom, maybe youll just have to find out on the other side if theyre there. DeDe herself still struggles with her brothers disappearance despite 45 years passing by. It was a Tuesday night when Billy and Joey came back home covered in mud. Sunshine and clouds mixed. In 2015, Hannibal Police Department Lieutenant John Zerbonia said case would stay open, but there probably wouldnt be any more searches. Our house was so full of cave men coming in from out of town. Was this just a case of kids being irresponsible, as kids often are? Be Proactive. Henderson also remembers a few theories as well. Don't Threaten. let us know the episode date and topic and contact Alex Heuer You can find her books on Amazon here: https://a More from Medium in CRIMOPEDIA. More than likely they were buried. DeDe Hoag believes her brothers and Craig Dowell may have gotten trapped in one of these holes and accidentally buried after they were sealed. "Kids aren't supposed to lose their friends." The Hoag Family was hoping and hoping for a sign of something positive in search efforts, but nothing ever came to light. He believes the mayor and others involved in the search may not have wanted to find the boys for fear of lawsuits if it could be proven the boys died at a dangerous construction site. racist or sexually-oriented language. But, so far, they havent found anything , Other theories say that the children fled to another city or were abducted. About two years later, he was joined by younger brother William Francis. Invalid password or account does not exist. Low 31F. Their parents, who were back from the meat market, said they werent there, but that if their friend saw him to tell them to hurry home. They did not even find traces of the children. They owned Hoags Tavern, a popular restaurant along Hannibals Historic Main Street. Craig disappeared with two other boys, the Hoag brothers Joel and William. Invalid password or account does not exist. Please avoid obscene, vulgar, lewd, In May 1967, the trio left home to explore caves in Hannibal, Missouri. He behind left three brothers. 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