Thanks Paul. A Walker mower has a lot less stress on the transmission than the mid-mount ZTRs. 2. Both have dealer support and both have the same sticker price. Exmark, Hustler, John Deere and Toro all make standon ZTRs. Husqvarna has the largest selection including the articulated made specifically for steep slopes. Hi Jon, Wow! Fabricated Decks Good value residential mowers Best for most people that want a mower that cuts well and will last. That said. Build Quality/durability, cut quality including mulching ability, and ability to use for towing small items are my priorities in that order since price is equal. However, Im not sure how comfortable I am going to feel on that hillside. What are your thoughts on these 3 mowers. Reading the reviews online it seems like all of them get pretty good marks. In addition, some companies want their own exclusive brand so they dont have to price match another retailer. Skaggs has a good blade change system, for no lift style. Hi Adam, The ZT2800 is considered high-end residential the ZT3100 is considered low-end commercial. Right now the ZTR market is saturated badly and there are new brands entering the market every month. Behold! Z700 SERIES. The ZT 3400 is the industry standard commercial tranny and youll find it on most commercial ZTRs in the $8000-$14,000 price range. The JD dealers seems good and I looked at the Z700 series. Bad boy offers the horsepower range of 21-35, which is not entirely different from raptor sd offers. Thanks for your help! I have looked at the Ariens Ikon 52, Bad Boy Elite, Skag Liberty Z 52, and Toro Timemaster with Soft Ride Suspension. Hi Mark, look under the seat. Check out my article here on the Toro Titan. Ive been hearing good things about the g5 gator blades but havent found a fit for the new ultima models. Toro TimeCutter MX6050 60 in. Any thoughts on Gravely ZT XL model versus a Toro for my situation? Hi John, Sorry, I too busy with movingsnow.com and helping my daughter move into their new house. Both are good engine brands with proven track records. It uses the ZT 2200 transmissions BUT, with the one-inch axles, the way the Walker is designed, the center steering, and the low center of gravity you will never have problems with them. (The neighbors have a hill that is, if anything, a bit steeper than mine. The 4-point deck doesnt bounce on rough ground and follows the wheels of the mower. I have around two acres to mow, with a lot of flower beds, a large flower/vegetable garden, two out buildings, two houses, two driveways, quite a few trees, fencing along a cow pasture, and a ditch along the highway. 25 cu. But the real market is Europe so not everyone is selling here yet. Its very comfortable to useand built well. Here are my questions: if i am willing to spend between 6-7k.. what would you say is the best mower i can get (residential/commercial). Ive been looking at the Ariens Ikon XD 42 which seems well reviewed. Trimming with the Model R is unbeatable. Well we got the E170 and its a great mower but took forever to mow the lawn and sucked almost a tank of gas. You may not even want to mow with it, but instead, just park it in the driveway to let. I really feel you are paying extra for the green paint compared to the Toro or even the Cub Cadet. While the ZT2 would last much longer, my boss decided to go with the Jonsered tractor and its Costco guarantee even though Costco does not guarantee any product past the manufacturers warranty. You get a lot more mower with the Ariens IKON. It will last you years. What would you suggest to best meet my needs? If I stay with a 50 Im trying to decide between the toro mx5000, the zt1 50, or the ikon x 52. Hi Paul, A 50-52 inch mower has a wider stance so youll feel more comfortable on your slope. Also mowing the higher grass takes a lot more power and the batteries may not be able to mow that 1.5 acres all at one time. Arent the Toro engines made in China? BTW, north coast California mowing May Oct. Then the rains come and mowing slows down substantially. Personally, I use Mobil One in all my engines and Ive never had an engine failure on any of my gas powered equipment, cars or trucks. They are fast but they can also mow 24-inch grass cleanly if needed. Toro researched and went with Loncin primarily because five years ago the quality control and warranty repairs for some of the other engine brands you recognize was becoming problematic. Thanks in advance for all your help! Having a really hard time deciding between the two if I make the jump from a 42 to the 50/52. 3. I mow a little over 1/2 acre that is flat but not smooth or soft ground. Ive owned them myself and my neighbor has had one for almost 20 years. 10-year limited deck warranty. I recommend the comfort seat and trailer hitch options. Im also not a big fan of mowers where the whole mower uses the suspension (like your car) because the deck can bounce up and down. 2. It has the heavier duty trannys and really rides nice! Not sure what engine you have for the Hustler option but if it has a kawasaki or honda I would go that route. Hi Paul, like Mark, my mower seems to eat the blade drive belt. Im thinking a 50 to 54-inch cut would be good, with a quality engine and transmission. The kids who stayed in the business got used to the Kaws so they continued to put them on their next mower and so on. If you try to pull too much the transmissions can overheat and if you do it often enough they will fail. Toro timecutter HD or With the mulch kit installed on the 48-inch deck its really only 6 inches wider than the 42-inch and will go through a 54-inch gate. 1. I plan to go look at the other 2 brands but have no clue if they are even in that range (scag, exmark). My problem is that most dealers are out of stock right now, so I need to make a choice without actually testing one myself. I have about 1 acre of mowable grass. As always, if you have any questions please ask them in the comment section at the end of this article. i just need help deciding which mower to go for, i run my own gardening business of three years and its now time to upgrade to a ZT, I do a few commercial jobs which are about 1 acre in size and alot of smaller residencial properties with small gate access around 1/2 acre. Thank you. I think Im leaning towards the Gravley/Ariens product. Great website and I love how you respond to everyones questions cause I actually browsed all your comments to help with my search and narrowed down my choices. Also I wonder if they all have 2200 axles, I thought I read that the toro had 2800s. I also bought my snow blower through your recommendation. Youll find a tag with the model and serial number. Im going to be down in the Bradley, Il area the middle of June. I know the Ariens/Gravely has zt-3100 hydros. Ill look then up. The grasshopper has a hydraulic deck lift and a few others have electric. (I live in central Ohio). They are expensive and Im not sure if the listed price includes installation. (It also has to do with the weight of the ZTR, the weight of the average operator, and how much downward weight the transmissions axles can handle). It comes in a 42-inch deck model and a 50-inch deck model. Since then I have went to a local dealer that sells Toro and Cub Cadet. One or two tree stumps, some large anthills. Also, the price for their 1 time leaf collection last year easily justifies a better solution there. Best For Rough Lawns Toro 50 in. SKU. I am looking at Scag Liberty z 48 and Bobcat ZT2000 48, Both look fairly similar. Well scratch my last replythe more I talk to my neighbors with riding mowers the more I hear that they wished they wouldve gone with a bigger deck even for our small 1/3 to 1/2 acre yardsIll hear that around 50 is what people think is enough/wish they wouldve gotten. Country Clipper Boulevard (deck tilt) Paul, Sorry for the long post but I have NO EXPERIENCE at all with any of this. Prices all seems around the same $2,900 to $3,200 locally. Go visit them and see which dealers you like. Do they really ride that much better? Hi Eric, The Toro rides better the Gravely is a heavier built machine. Toro Premium Fuel Treatment helps ensure clean, reliable engine performance and protection. Guys who blow them up try to mow hills over 15 degrees, overheat them by not cleaning the fins once in a while, dont change the oil and air cleaner regularly. The next most important factor is a comfortable ride as my yard, although flat, can be a bit bumpy. Since Cub Cadet is the newest and they tried to hit all the consumer pain points which includes noise, Ill have to guess the Cub Cadet is quieter. I went and looked at it last Saturday and got to drive it around the parking lot. Considering the lack of step and handrail, would the Boulevard still be your first choice for me? Trying to decide between a 54 Magnum MZ ztr Bad Boy and a Ariens Ikon X 52, any words of advise? Please rank or help me eliminate machines that would be overkill/over buy. Hi Walter, The Ariens. Toro Timecutter: (they have a fabricated deck or a stamped deck not sure which to get) Havent seen no negative comments on these. 24.5 HP TimeCutter IronForged Deck Commercial V-Twin Gas Dual Hydrostatic Zero-Turn Riding Mower, Toro TITAN 54 in. 679 cc Fuel Injected (EFI) V-Twin Engine Dual Hydro Gas ZeroTurn Riding Mower with Steering Wheel Control. Its built heavier than the Timecutters but does not have the heavy-duty transmissions of the HD line. The cut was great and the ride was pretty comfortable for a not so even yard. The deck couldnt handle the bumpy ground. I think i would prefer to keep it under 48 inches as well. thanks for your great reviews. The new 2018 Boulevard would be $400 more than a 2019 Ariens IKON XL 52 (I cannot find one locally to test, but I havent given up yet). They arevented inside the spout so the fuel pours quickly yet seals tightly when not in use. Im leaning towards the MyRides at this point. Walker Model R. Either the 42 or 48-inch deck but the 48 will give you the best trimming capabilities. I assume the zero turn would have a lower center of gravity, but less weight on the front wheels. Thank you!! I put about 75 hours a year on my mower. The Tractor itself is good but they put a cheap Briggs Intek motor in it. $1.64 USD Add to Cart heavier deck, and stronger transmissions. I lived in a condo that took care of the yard for 9 years so I havent mowed in almost a decade. Better transmissions and better controls. Do you recommend replacing blades annually? I will check out the Z355R. Kawasaki has a lot of name brand recognition with the small owner/operators. The most recommended dealer for service in my area sells mainly Hustler ZTs in my price range. Since your lawn will be rough you want the strength of the HD line. Gravely ZT XL 52: $4200 Do you have any thoughts on how easy (or not) the Toros vs. the Deeres are to work on? The Smart speed is a lever that lets you reduce the maximum forward speed so you are not tempted to push the transmissions too hard when towing and it allows you to go slow when trimming so you dont bang into stuff as much. But its biggest advantage is the mower will hang on slopes because the front wheels steer and both transmissions drive all the time. I do wish I could have the ELS engine, but maybe I can find a way to enhance the existing stock configuration to extend engine life, and in the process improve my chances. That said. It cuts so well I use it as my reference mower when comparing all the rest. This is not game-changing, but it's much quicker than the ZT mowers purchased at the store. One more question: There is a hauler that can be purchased with the Ultima ZT2. The new model #991145 Gravely Compact Pro 44 Commercial mower is having many problems. If you have a local dealer to service it I have no problems recommending a Bush Hog. Not because of serviceability but most of the other brands mow a lot better. Based on your article, I am considering the Toro MX5075 MyRide and the Arins IKON XL 52. You will like the cut of the John Deere a lot. Earl, Depends on the slope. If you still want to pick up the mulched leaves then get this sweeper> Agri-Fab 44 in. The Toro engine is not as well-known as the Kawasaki FR but has better reliability. As an old fart who has been using ZTRs since they were introduced in the early 90s Im going to tell you a secret no one else will tell you today. Your review the other day was spot on. reviews and youtube clips indicate this thing can mow fast and stripe. In your case the Walker H with a rear discharge deck would be the ultimate choice. Your second issue is many ZTRs are light in the front and the mower could tip over backwards going up that steep of a slope. The MX series is in between the TimeCutter and the Timecutter HD. We have been in touch over the past few years. The shelter for the elderly homeless (where I live and work) has about 2 1/2 acres of mostly flat, open land to mow. I am used to walk behind operation / handling In my opinion, this is the lowest price point you should go for what you want to mow. Thanks again for your help! Fab 24.5 HP V-Twin Gas Dual Hydrostatic Zero Turn Riding Mower, Toro TimeCutter MX6050 60 in. Ill have to take a look at the land again and make a decision. I mow about 1 1/2 acre of old bumpy lawn every week and another 1 1/2 acre of former pasture every other week. Its really a light duty mower and a few years of bouncing it around your property and it will start to have issues like the frame stress cracking, front casters breaking, etc. The Liberty Z Scag is a residential mower and is the cheapest in the Scag line. Ive just been getting more confused the past few weeks when trying to buy my first ZTR, and I hope you can help me. I have a feeling you will have to get into the 800-900 lbs, 50-60 inch ZTRs to get one that will work. Regarding the gator blades, I have heard opinions that they should not be used with mulching kits. Again, that seems too much money and I am struggling to justify spending that much. Fabricated Deck 24 HP Kohler Pro 7000 Series Engine with Roll Over ProtectionAvailable at, Cub Cadet Ultima ZTX4 60 in. Well, Ive found two brands that work great! Hi Mike, If you want shaft drive you have to buy a Grasshopper or Kubota front deck mower. The rest of the time I doubt youll have more than 3-400 lbs in the cart and the heavy duty ZT2800 transmissions can handle that easily. The Kubota Z700 series (Z723KH-48 / Z724KH-54 / Z725KH-60 / Z724XKW-48 / Z724XKW-54 / Z726XKW-60) mowers have a top speed of 11.2 MPH for maximum productivity when you need to get the job done fast. I havent been able to see much on the cut quality of the apex and if its worth the extra $1000. I can tell you Ive had my Cut Cadet Ultima ZT2 54 for 2 1/2 months now, and it rocks! Heres what I like about the Bradley (link below): ZT3400 drives / 23 rear tires. Its the latest design. 8. There doesnt appear to be much difference between the two The Pro has slightly bigger transmission, 1 bigger rear tires and Kohler Confidant EFI Closed Loop EZT-740 engine with 12cc Hydro-Gear ZT 3400 transmission with charge pumps. Ive also read about the Ariens mowers you recommend. https://www.russopower.com/bob-cat-quickcat-48-stand-on-mower-20-5hp-kawasaki, https://www.walmart.com/ip/Bradley-Mowers-48SC-BS24V-48-Hydro-Drive-Stand-On-Compact-Zero-Turn-Mower-Briggs-Vanguard-24HP-Electric-Start/857626337?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&adid=22222222227101833639&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=&wl1=s&wl2=c&wl3=217425214023&wl4=pla-351178471162&wl5=9007349&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=online&wl12=857626337&wl13=&veh=sem&gclid=CjwKCAjw8LTmBRBCEiwAbhh-6DkrXIHh6wBIoiq3Nq8irCQhs-bWBoJAYhEHyGtOPxcEuDgjojV9gxoCVFQQAvD_BwE. However, Im wondering if either of these would be substantially easier to work on for basic maintenance (oil/filter changes, blade sharpening, etc. Hi Ryan, I too have a lot of leaves. If you get the Toro make sure you get a set of the standard mulching blades. So Im all jammed up! It was the kubota z421kw (54/60 inch) with the kawasaki engines. Seems to be the biggest difference is the forged deck? 6. The Cub Cadet ZTX4 is also a great mower. Dave. You have to move up to an Edge to get that option. We have John Deere, Hustler, Bad Boy, Kubota, Husqvarna, and Grasshopper dealers, as well as stores such as Lowes, Home Depot, and Tractor Supply which carry other brands. Dont worry about the commission. Which one do you think would be more durable? Cub Cadets commercial stuff is awesome but its going to take a while yet before it catches on with the commercial guys. Your dealer also carries more Husqvarna products that are not sold at retailers. If would you like to buy from your local dealer or store but still want to support TodaysMower just click on this link and buy anything you need. A cheaper belt is a cheaper belt. Bad Boy zero-turn model . What do you think about the Craftsman 42 inch Steering wheel zero turn. I am looking at zero turns and I feel like I can spend $3,000 or less and get a great mower. The Edge also has a pivoting front axle. Bush Hog has had zero-turns for many years and the current models are heavy-duty well-built units. They have two that I recommend. All of these machines seem to be comparable to each other but of course theyre a lot of money and I definitely want to make the right choice. John Deere Z530M. It will easily last through your sons learning stage and go on to last you years. HI Greg, I use the specs page at toro.com. Another possibility is to go back to a lawn/garden tractor. I visited the nearest Jonsered dealer today, and he said that Husqvarna has bought up several brand names and hasnt figured out how to deploy them in the marketplace. Thanks for your help! We also have a gorilla yard cart and would like some thing with a hitch pin to pull around firewood or brush etc. Hi Charlie, Is the dealer getting some in or will your local Ariens Dealer order the mower? Hi Laurrelle, There are very few front deck mowers on the market. 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