If I was a little bigger, Id carry the P09 all day long, instead of the P07. I've been hoping for years to see an M&P 10mm hit the market, so I will definitely be grabbing one of those. They had it over 3 weeks without a word to me with what was wrong with it. Nice review! Oh, and until it broke it ran like a champ. Feel The Beat Hoodie Moreover, it has a hoodie-style collar with a pullover front closure and rib knitted cuffs to hold your wrist. One of the screws "holding" the red dot to the slide came out during one range session. Speaking of things that shot my confidence all to hell while using this gun, a brief note on the slide lock. This is not at all uncommon in 1911s. When using the rear sights, it feels really good when you reset for another shot. As a sidenote, the video above does a good job of showing how practically accurate the XD(m) is. Its frame is black polymer with three interchangeable backstraps. VERY accurate, i have been having some problems with the mag dropping out of it during shooting recently, but thats the only issue i have had. The XD(M) features a safety blade trigger with a clean break and a noticeable reset. Is It? Was going to post a pic but it wont let me attach it to the comment, idk if you can even do that on here, but it was my p09 sitting next to the Para ordinance 1911 that gets outta the safe every once in awhile. In his free time, he reviews optics on his Scopes Field blog. Thats my only complaint. 1 Replies 175 Views February 03 2023 10:38:47 AM MST by Graybeard: Glock 20 questions. Im interested that you have issues with the slide lock on this pistol but not the 3.8? JavaScript is disabled. Id hoped that the trigger would break in a bit, but after 500+ rounds, there wasnt any improvement. The trigger still broke at seven and a half pounds after much stacking. #1. The Glock tends to aim low for me but the XDM just feels rite. This is the one we have been waiting our entire lives for. The XD(m) slide lock is a fairly aggressive little tab of metal which makes it great for releasing the slide one handed (which I dont do), but struck me as particularly cumbersome due to the funk Ive developed in my support hand grip. Optic cut, suppressor sights, 4.5" slide with a 5.3" threaded barrel. Springfield Armory XD-M 10mm Discontinued Jump to Latest Follow Products in this Thread Discover products that SIG Talk members are discussing products that are mentioned will automatically appear here. There may not be a thumb safety, but that doesnt mean there arent any safety features. Never admit you had an over pressure load. The MSRP for the base model XD-M Elite 10mm retails at $653 while the Hex Dragonfly Red Dot equipped version (the precise model being reviewed here today) punches in at $837. No work was done to the pistol, outside of a recoil spring change and oil at 2,000 round intervals. And thanks to the well-positioned mag release, the 10mm loads quickly and efficiently. I typically run square-notch rear sights on my handguns, but I really have been enjoying the U-notch sights that came on the XD-M Elite. I have the 4.5 in .40 and the 5.25 in 9mm with the 4.5 with the drop in and the really light one (extreme?) Ive experienced zero malfunctions, and the ammo consisted of Blazer Brass 180-grain FMJ and Hornady 180-grain JHP. Before, the brass was getting scraped up a bit by the claw and I did has some failure to return to battery but only with old beat up brass. What advantage does it give you (compared to not locking the slide every third shot)? Have 1000+ rounds through mine, not a single issue. price you pay and your purchases through our links help support Looks to be a similar issue, his trigger also locked up. Did a full slide disassembly and found that the striker needed to be replaced (after replacing the broken striker retainer pin) and so I've got one in the mail. Im a little late to the party here but I have 2 cents to toss in. Unless you wear a billowing shirt, this thing prints like crazy, but at some point you stop caring. Ordered a Springfield Armory XDm 10mm 4.5" through the IOP and just picked it up out of jail, where it was thoroughly cooled off. Either is a great choice in 10mm. If youre going to be running a 10mm handgun, you might as well have a beefy and durable optic too, right? The new XD-M Elite 4.5 OSP 10mm combines all the refinements of the Elite series with the impressive power of the 10mm cartridge. Caliber: 10mm. Apr 11, 2020. They replaced the trigger. I'll never buy another Springfield. The gun is definitively minute of bad guy accurate, and as you can see in the video above, head shots at ten yards at a decent little clip are well within the realm of a mediocre operator. The XD-M 10mm www.thearmorylife.com Jan 6, 2022 #6 Thats my only complaint. If you have found any PD rounds which feed and chamber reliably in your Beretta, I would be glad to learn of them. Man, what a difference! However, I can't stand a grip safety. Either is a great choice in 10mm. Believe it has something to do with OAL (too long/out of spec), but never cared quite enough to figure out the why of it as I have seen too many overall issues with WWB to consider it a pistol issue. 9 MM 10 MM .45 ACP. Along with the rest of this sleek design, the Lightning Cut on the slide goes a long way to trimming down the fat. This isnt to say that the XD (M) cant handle a wide variety of ammo, though, because it performs with equally well with range ammo like Tula 115 gr, Remington UMC. Its well built. WebModel: XDM Elite. WebXDM Elite 10mm 3.8" FAILURE! By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. http://www.chuckhawks.com/sig_p232_stainless.jpg. It carries 15 rounds in the mag so the grip is bigger than a 1911 but it is not at all awkward. I've fired well over 1000 rounds with mine and had zero issues. "The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog." FACTORY Gen 3 gun. Fresh out of the box, they are bright and crisp in daylight and even the waning hours. Fun gun it fits in all 9mm / 40sw XDM holsters. I didnt see anything wrong with the pistol and reassembled. The larger carry is a Browning BDA, also 917, which bears a PB logo on the right side of the slide just below and forward of the ejection port, and is a Model 84BB with a closed slide and a slide mounted decocker produced for Browning about 1980-2000. As you can clearly see in the picture, the XD(m) is coated in a liberal amount of stipling and grip serrations on both the frame and the slide. Havent compared yet. The beavertail profile is a nice addition, too. I'd handled one in an LGS next to the Glock 20, RIA 1911, and EAA Witness. A larger, heavier gun makes recoil more manageable, and lets face it: with so many different caliber options for concealed carry in urban environments, the 10mm better fits open carry for wilderness situations. Compact yet powerful, the pistol packs in 11+1 rounds of the powerful 10mm and features fully ambidextrous controls, the excellent META trigger and much more. After the first 2 magazines I noticed this little wire protruding from the loaded chamber indicator. It sounds to me that Springfield Arms shoehorned a magnum power cartridge into a major power frame. Once again, the superb mechanics and sleek construction of this gun have bumped the XD(M) up the ranks of quality handguns. Springfield Armorys customer service representatives can answer your questions/concerns Monday through Friday 8:30 to 4:30 CST via phone at 1-800-680-6866, International: +1-309-944-5631 or email at sales@springfield-armory.com. A larger, heavier gun makes recoil more manageable, and lets face it: with so many different caliber options for concealed carry in urban environments, the 10mm better fits open carry for wilderness situations. I have the Glock-20, love it. Where I found the 3.8 to be a joy to shoot, and very accurate given the slightly shorter barrel length, the 4.5 was the older brother that never quite lived up to his potential. The XD(M) is already a low-recoil handgun, and with its fast cycle-through you barely even notice a hitch, especially with reduced-power loads. The magazines are chromed and slide home easily and freely. MSRP $609 - $837. Im not much of a pistol guy, but I can consistently hit head shots at 30 yards (90) with my 4.5 XDM .40. Ultimately, as much as I love them (and M&P), Im now INTIMATE with my CZ P09 (and P07 Gen2). Come join the discussion about collections, gear, DIY projects, hobbies, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Springfield Armorys customer service representatives can answer your questions/concerns Monday through Friday 8:30 to 4:30 CST via phone at 1-800-680-6866, International: +1-309-944-5631 or email at sales@springfield-armory.com. WebFeaturing a superbly refined trigger, the XD-M Elite represents the pinnacle of performance in modern striker-fired pistols. Never been happier with a gun !! Ergonomics * * * * * I found it just a tiny bit troubling that you apparently have one grip style that you expect to work on all handguns and you dont adjust to whatever you are shooting. The reliability thing is a mixed bag. It sounds like you were unfortunate enough to get a lemon. The idea of 20 rounds seems quite attractive, but the 7 1/2 lb trigger is a definite turn off. I would think they are set up almost identically? The 10mm cartridge has evolved since the first ones appeared. Length: 7.6. I cant really fault a gunmaker for my stupid grip, but I can fault them for not shaving down the slide lock a bit more, something I would do had I chosen to add the 4.5 to the fleet. It may not be as popular as a GLOCK, but parts and accessories are no harder to find than for any other pistol on the market. For the rest of us, its a grippy affair, nuff said. I've put rounds through a Rock Island 1911 10mm so this was a chance to do a compare and contrast. I used to have similar issues with support hands and slide locks. Caliber: 10mm. I pulled it out and I realized it was the spring that keeps tension on the indicator. Copyright 2023 Center for the National Interest All Rights Reserved. And thanks to the well-positioned mag release, the 10mm loads quickly and efficiently. I never cleaned it during the testing, and while it was downright filthy at the end, it still continued to run. We made it. Where the Springfield Armory XD-M Elite 3.8-inch Compact OSP 10mm Failed This XD-M has good iron sights, but with an optic, theyre useless, even as quick backups. It has a nice crisp break and the reset is defined. I had S&W try to do that to me once. YMMV, +1 for prp. Especially if you like 1911. The slide is forged carbon steel with a Melonite finish, which is tough stuff. In the interest of not creating another split category, Ill say this about that: mechanically, the gun is very accurate. It could use a set of suppressor-height sights I can't seem to locate the after pic. No matter the situation, this gun will not let you down. The XDS is wonderfully accurate and the length and weight increase from the 3.3 to the 4 length makes it a pleasure to shoot. In case the stock ergos dont work for you, the XD(m) ships with three replaceable backstraps so that you can fit the gun to your paw. Theyll quickly dissolve and disappear at the first sight of any gun cleaning chemical, a problem I noted in my review of the younger brother to the 4.5. I have an XDm 5.25 and its been a great gun. No matter how I tried to position myself, no matter how much dry fire practice I did, I just couldnt ever make the gun produce better than the groups you see above at the ten yard line. My experience was that the two were near identical in operational capability. Caliber: 10mm. I dont see much here that amounts to an advantage over my 5 XD9 version 1.0 except maybe 3 more rounds of capacity. I've been hoping for years to see an M&P 10mm hit the market, so I will definitely be grabbing one of those. All of the controls work as they are supposed to. Although the body of the magazines are metal, they have polymer base plates and polymer followers. I typically do sights myself, but the XDM front sight is an extreme poa, due to the slide contour. The extractor is just a little aggressive, that's all. Theres really no skirting the fact. The accuracy alone makes gunslingers around the world sit up and take notice. Its highly accurate, extremely reliable, and its streamlined design allows for a balanced, lightweight hold. However my factory Glock barrel (still have it) cycles fine the Underwood 200gr slug bear load. I bought a Springfield XDm in .45 from LGS about 9 weeks ago. I was obviously very surprised but kept on shooting. I didn't have much luck with my G20.4 Now, I don't know about you all but this is the first brand new firearm I've had basically fall apart in my handsand I shoot a lot of S and B. As far as accuracy is concerned, the large frame and 4.5 barrel definitely help with recoil management, which translates over to the accuracy. You can read all about it here, but this is the first pistol that has not agreed with my high handed support grip. Small handed individuals like yours truly have no trouble reaching the trigger with an appropriate amount of index pad on the trigger shoe. WebTimney Alpha Competition Trigger for M&P 10mm? Jul 17, 2021. Each XD(M) barrel is hand-fitted to each individual pistol, so the parts fit flawlessly and work smoothly to produce fast, accurate shots each time you fire. I own an SA but will think twice before buying another one. After a long awaited range session with my new xdm 10mm, the pistol failed in less than 60 rounds. Dont blame the gun. Contrasting your M&P w/RDS, IF you have an M&P9 Pro C.O.R.E, just aint fair, as for the ton of additional money, especially after you put a quality mini-dot on the M&P, youd expect it to be a good deal better. The only exception was the P232 above in that my palm extends maybe 1/4 inch below the back of the grip, if that. 10mm In September of 2021, Springfield Armory released the XD-M Elite in 10mm, which featured a 3.8 barrel. Still not stellar, but slightly better than what I did unsupported. I'm curious, did your xdms take a bit for the barrel and slide to wear in and seat? I field stripped and checked everythings out. #1. You could have been dealing with some sort of hand strain before you went and mildly damaged something, if you are already suffering from tendonitis it's not hard to do. Here's a brief unboxing: Came in cardboard, not the nice "pelican" as its found typically; think that's an IOP thing. After about 50 rounds of hornady critical defense (factory ammo) I had an odd round that made my whole hand sting. I have a lot of waistline to hide stuff in/on. For a little concealer I own a .380 in the form of the Sig P232 which holds 7+1 and just about fills my hand. Spend the same amount of cash on your XDM, to include one of the above-mentioned trigger jobs, after market sights, and/or a mini-RDS dovetail and sight, and youd have a comparable gun. Springfieldor HSapparently doesn't know how to make extractors. I hate to split a category up (Nick hates it more), but the truth is that this is a very mechanically accurate pistol. SA accomplished this with the Lightning Cut, a three-inch cut-out on the top of the slide which allows for a faster cycle by reducing reciprocating mass. His work has appeared in large publications like The Armory Life, Daily Caller, American Shooting Journal, and more. And never admit you were shooting reloads. I could check this weekend when I have some time. After about 50 rounds of hornady critical defense (factory ammo) I had an odd round that made my whole hand sting. Sights: Fiber Optic Front, Tactical Rack U-Dot Rear. Ive got an xd 45 5 tactical and an xdm 9 competition (5.25). The test round they used is basically a .40 S&W round. The beavertail profile is a nice addition, too. My wife has the XDM 9mm and its accurate enough for 30yd head shots as well. I think the larger size XD with the stainless (two-tone?) After a long awaited range session with my new xdm 10mm, the pistol failed in less than 60 rounds. Its like gun Christmas. I would have liked to see the fiber optic rod in the front sight fully encapsulated, though, for increased durability. I field stripped and checked everythings out. After the first 2 magazines I noticed this little wire protruding from the loaded chamber indicator. But this is an all around nice pistol to have with me on the highways. Advantage Arms .22 Conversion Kit for Springfield XDM 9/ 40. 4 Replies 457 Views September 27 2022 12:41:12 PM MDT by Kenk: 1911 10mm mag question. To prove the quality and reliability of the new XD-M 10mm, 10,000 rounds of Federal Premium Hydra-Shok ammunition was fired through the gun with EVERY round documented on video. Being 6-3 and north of 300 pounds, allows me to carry either my summer gun (Glock 17) or my winter gun (1911-A1) without them printing. Even as an admitted M&P addict, I cant imagine shooting any of them without an Apex trigger kit installed. Depending on preference, might be a bit too much for a carry piece. This resulted in some pretty nasty gouges in the X-Ray chassis and some minor scratches in the polymer frame and a scratch or two in the slide. Started by Kenk. 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